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		<title>By: Elisa Wu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elisa Wu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 09:18:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the solution #1 and #5. Honestly, I don&#039;t think the self-regulation solution works since it really depends on LO or brokers&#039;s own perspecitve and integrity or say honesty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the solution #1 and #5. Honestly, I don&#8217;t think the self-regulation solution works since it really depends on LO or brokers&#8217;s own perspecitve and integrity or say honesty.</p>
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		<title>By: Jillayne Schlicke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jillayne Schlicke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 04:16:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Wade,

In Washington state, LOs who are licensed under a mortgage broker owe fiduciary duties to their clients. Same in many other states now.  

It&#039;s debatable whether or not it&#039;s the job of the real estate agent.

An agent has a conflict of interest wouldn&#039;t you agree?  If the transaction doesn&#039;t close, the Realtor does not get paid.  It would seem difficult for an agent to give neutral financial advice regarding the mortgage lending side of the transaction. Most agents want to leave the mortgage lending work to the mortgage lenders.


However, I DO know a handful of Realtors that insist on making sure the homebuyer is not being taken advantage of by a predatory lender, and insist on attending the end-of-closing signing appointment to make sure the lender honored the fees quoted on the good faith estimate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Wade,</p>
<p>In Washington state, LOs who are licensed under a mortgage broker owe fiduciary duties to their clients. Same in many other states now.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s debatable whether or not it&#8217;s the job of the real estate agent.</p>
<p>An agent has a conflict of interest wouldn&#8217;t you agree?  If the transaction doesn&#8217;t close, the Realtor does not get paid.  It would seem difficult for an agent to give neutral financial advice regarding the mortgage lending side of the transaction. Most agents want to leave the mortgage lending work to the mortgage lenders.</p>
<p>However, I DO know a handful of Realtors that insist on making sure the homebuyer is not being taken advantage of by a predatory lender, and insist on attending the end-of-closing signing appointment to make sure the lender honored the fees quoted on the good faith estimate.</p>
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		<title>By: Wade Lester</title>
		<link>http://mortgagefiduciaries.com/2008/06/solutions-to-the-mortgage-lending-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-1659</link>
		<dc:creator>Wade Lester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 03:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not aware of any lender/broker/loan officer that has fiduciuary to consumer, they have fiduciary to there broker or lender. It is the Realtors job to counsel the financing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not aware of any lender/broker/loan officer that has fiduciuary to consumer, they have fiduciary to there broker or lender. It is the Realtors job to counsel the financing.</p>
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		<title>By: Jillayne Schlicke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jillayne Schlicke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 17:16:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes Ross you&#039;re correct in that most U.S. companies are not built on self regulation.

Self-reg works for groups of professionals (that work inside those corporations.)

There&#039;s a narrative history of how professional groups are formed.  Loan Originators are classified as &quot;emerging professionals.&quot;  Self regulation (LOs deciding to kick those bad apples out of the industry much like a Bar Assoc ruthlessly dis-bars their bad apple lawyers) is one of the last pieces for LOs to do. But this step comes from the LOs, not their corporations or from the government.

The other last step is for all LOs to owe fiduciary duties to their clients.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes Ross you&#8217;re correct in that most U.S. companies are not built on self regulation.</p>
<p>Self-reg works for groups of professionals (that work inside those corporations.)</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a narrative history of how professional groups are formed.  Loan Originators are classified as &#8220;emerging professionals.&#8221;  Self regulation (LOs deciding to kick those bad apples out of the industry much like a Bar Assoc ruthlessly dis-bars their bad apple lawyers) is one of the last pieces for LOs to do. But this step comes from the LOs, not their corporations or from the government.</p>
<p>The other last step is for all LOs to owe fiduciary duties to their clients.</p>
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		<title>By: Jillayne Schlicke</title>
		<link>http://mortgagefiduciaries.com/2008/06/solutions-to-the-mortgage-lending-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-1560</link>
		<dc:creator>Jillayne Schlicke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 17:15:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ross

Think about doctors, lawyers, accountants, engineers, nurses, paralegals.... these are all groups of professionals that work in a corporate setting.

The higher the duty to the consumer the more money the professional makes.

All of the above have industry lead self regulation in place.

Loan originators do not. Someday LOs will.

If LOs want to put more of the burden of discovery on the consumer then the value of an LOs services will go down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ross</p>
<p>Think about doctors, lawyers, accountants, engineers, nurses, paralegals&#8230;. these are all groups of professionals that work in a corporate setting.</p>
<p>The higher the duty to the consumer the more money the professional makes.</p>
<p>All of the above have industry lead self regulation in place.</p>
<p>Loan originators do not. Someday LOs will.</p>
<p>If LOs want to put more of the burden of discovery on the consumer then the value of an LOs services will go down.</p>
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		<title>By: Ross Palmer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ross Palmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 01:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t believe many American Companies are built by “Self Regulation”. They have many polices and procedures in place to set the example, but with big corporations it&#039;s not easy to follow through with all of the expectations. Throw a few bad seeds in there and the &quot;self regulation&quot; theory gets thrown out the window. I&#039;d like to believe a majority of individuals out there cna have self regulation and meet their companies standards, but this is not always the case. People in America take many things for granted, many eyes have been opened as the recession continues to put people in harder finanical situations then ever before. In order to stop the mortgage crisis, self regulated programs should be set in place for the consumer, with serious consequences aside from just losing a home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t believe many American Companies are built by “Self Regulation”. They have many polices and procedures in place to set the example, but with big corporations it&#8217;s not easy to follow through with all of the expectations. Throw a few bad seeds in there and the &#8220;self regulation&#8221; theory gets thrown out the window. I&#8217;d like to believe a majority of individuals out there cna have self regulation and meet their companies standards, but this is not always the case. People in America take many things for granted, many eyes have been opened as the recession continues to put people in harder finanical situations then ever before. In order to stop the mortgage crisis, self regulated programs should be set in place for the consumer, with serious consequences aside from just losing a home.</p>
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		<title>By: Melissa Morgan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melissa Morgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 02:32:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those are all great solutions and if the suggested solutions were implemented all would benefit greatly, that should cover it!  Our industry absolutely needed reorganization and cleansing.  For those who intend to stay in this industry for the long haul relish this change.  Back to basics.  Good ethics, logical underwriting and prudent corporate review.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those are all great solutions and if the suggested solutions were implemented all would benefit greatly, that should cover it!  Our industry absolutely needed reorganization and cleansing.  For those who intend to stay in this industry for the long haul relish this change.  Back to basics.  Good ethics, logical underwriting and prudent corporate review.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Dahleen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Dahleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 21:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like most of your solutions.
#1 - Agree
#2 - I agree. So does FHA. The new rule coming into place does just what you said. HUD&#039;s letter to Deborah Bortner of DFI for the response dated 11/28,2006 and which was put out on May 24 2007 by DFI. In the letter look to response #5 and #6. 
This would limit compensation. 
#3 - All am all Pro Business. 
#4 agree
#5 agree - no DPA&#039;s
#6 is very tough to control. Look no further to the loan mod business and you will see that internet lead providers are getting the majority of revenue for selling loan mod leads. But you comment from the guy at internet brands (one of the largest internet classified companies and reseller of leads) would be very tough to montior. I can see his borrowers Bill of Rights is a good game face tactic but who is to say (or who will regulate) that his tactic are all above board. 

One additional solution for me to add to the list is compliant storage of data and paper work. I think it should be that each and every lender should not have any paper laying around the office. Or stored in some off site Self Storage place. Only for that company to go out of business. Where is all of my copy files?? Where have they kept all of my taxes, bank statements, credit reports and loan documents?  No one seems to be asking that question now but it is a big problem. 

Look at the down turn and what it did to all of those smaller companies who have paper every place. It should be a requirement that every one needs a safe compliant vaulting service otherwise you can be in business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like most of your solutions.<br />
#1 &#8211; Agree<br />
#2 &#8211; I agree. So does FHA. The new rule coming into place does just what you said. HUD&#8217;s letter to Deborah Bortner of DFI for the response dated 11/28,2006 and which was put out on May 24 2007 by DFI. In the letter look to response #5 and #6.<br />
This would limit compensation.<br />
#3 &#8211; All am all Pro Business.<br />
#4 agree<br />
#5 agree &#8211; no DPA&#8217;s<br />
#6 is very tough to control. Look no further to the loan mod business and you will see that internet lead providers are getting the majority of revenue for selling loan mod leads. But you comment from the guy at internet brands (one of the largest internet classified companies and reseller of leads) would be very tough to montior. I can see his borrowers Bill of Rights is a good game face tactic but who is to say (or who will regulate) that his tactic are all above board. </p>
<p>One additional solution for me to add to the list is compliant storage of data and paper work. I think it should be that each and every lender should not have any paper laying around the office. Or stored in some off site Self Storage place. Only for that company to go out of business. Where is all of my copy files?? Where have they kept all of my taxes, bank statements, credit reports and loan documents?  No one seems to be asking that question now but it is a big problem. </p>
<p>Look at the down turn and what it did to all of those smaller companies who have paper every place. It should be a requirement that every one needs a safe compliant vaulting service otherwise you can be in business.</p>
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		<title>By: Raylene Ramos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raylene Ramos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 21:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In order to stop the mortgage crisis, self regulated programs should be set in place for the consumer and should have serious consequences if not followed properly. Consumers have the right to have honest L.O. and originators working for them and I think this kind of system is exactly what we need to keep lenders accountable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In order to stop the mortgage crisis, self regulated programs should be set in place for the consumer and should have serious consequences if not followed properly. Consumers have the right to have honest L.O. and originators working for them and I think this kind of system is exactly what we need to keep lenders accountable.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary McGraw</title>
		<link>http://mortgagefiduciaries.com/2008/06/solutions-to-the-mortgage-lending-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-1465</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary McGraw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 21:52:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my opinion, everyone should be honest and explain everything to the consumer, so they are aware of what they are truely accepting.  Most consumers want to &quot;trust&quot; what mortgage professionals are telling them. That is what we should be doing for our clients, the right thing...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my opinion, everyone should be honest and explain everything to the consumer, so they are aware of what they are truely accepting.  Most consumers want to &#8220;trust&#8221; what mortgage professionals are telling them. That is what we should be doing for our clients, the right thing&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Terry Birkland</title>
		<link>http://mortgagefiduciaries.com/2008/06/solutions-to-the-mortgage-lending-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-1457</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry Birkland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 23:37:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am currently working under a Self Regulatory Organization FINRA formerly the NASD.  They have enormous power over the conduct of securities broker dealers and registered reps.  I have many daily compliance duties that do get tedious.  One of the primary duties of a rep is to &quot;know your customer&quot;  and another is &quot;suitability&quot;.  They (FINRA) have the power to levy hugh fines, sometimes up to $250,000 and more.  At this point in the mortgage business I&#039;m relying on my Broker for guidence.  This blog and class however makes me realize how little I actually know about the mortgage business.  In spite of regulation criminals always figure out ways to take advantage of others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am currently working under a Self Regulatory Organization FINRA formerly the NASD.  They have enormous power over the conduct of securities broker dealers and registered reps.  I have many daily compliance duties that do get tedious.  One of the primary duties of a rep is to &#8220;know your customer&#8221;  and another is &#8220;suitability&#8221;.  They (FINRA) have the power to levy hugh fines, sometimes up to $250,000 and more.  At this point in the mortgage business I&#8217;m relying on my Broker for guidence.  This blog and class however makes me realize how little I actually know about the mortgage business.  In spite of regulation criminals always figure out ways to take advantage of others.</p>
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		<title>By: William Platts</title>
		<link>http://mortgagefiduciaries.com/2008/06/solutions-to-the-mortgage-lending-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-1393</link>
		<dc:creator>William Platts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 17:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember a real estate crunch back in the 80&#039;s, the doom and gloom was predominate in the industry. When its good people forget it won&#039;t always be that way, when crunch time arrives people forget it won&#039;t always be that way. Economics run on curvey roads and fall of the road on a hair-pin turn once in a while. We have just done that! We will recover. If we can foster an atmosphere of &quot;action&quot; by those in this industry we just might be able to come out of this mess a self-regulated respected profession. It will take years to accomplish, but the penalty for us not taking action ourselves will result in inaffective government regulation, which is the best they can do and does not serve us or the consumer in a fruitful win-win situation. There is just not any room for uncontrolled greed in this industry any longer. We are not all guilty but we are ALL responsible, this is a simple truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember a real estate crunch back in the 80&#8217;s, the doom and gloom was predominate in the industry. When its good people forget it won&#8217;t always be that way, when crunch time arrives people forget it won&#8217;t always be that way. Economics run on curvey roads and fall of the road on a hair-pin turn once in a while. We have just done that! We will recover. If we can foster an atmosphere of &#8220;action&#8221; by those in this industry we just might be able to come out of this mess a self-regulated respected profession. It will take years to accomplish, but the penalty for us not taking action ourselves will result in inaffective government regulation, which is the best they can do and does not serve us or the consumer in a fruitful win-win situation. There is just not any room for uncontrolled greed in this industry any longer. We are not all guilty but we are ALL responsible, this is a simple truth.</p>
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		<title>By: Teresa Tait</title>
		<link>http://mortgagefiduciaries.com/2008/06/solutions-to-the-mortgage-lending-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-1315</link>
		<dc:creator>Teresa Tait</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 03:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also am thankful for the changes that are taking place in our industry. They are long overdue and hopefully will take us to a much more professional level in years to come.It would be best if we can as a profession self regulate and rise to the challenges ahead of us.I would like to see all LO&#039;S( Bank and/or Broker employed) required to be licensed and all held to the same standards.I also agree with getting rid of down pymt assistance programs.All this does is artificially inflate the homes value which has now come back to haunt us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also am thankful for the changes that are taking place in our industry. They are long overdue and hopefully will take us to a much more professional level in years to come.It would be best if we can as a profession self regulate and rise to the challenges ahead of us.I would like to see all LO&#8217;S( Bank and/or Broker employed) required to be licensed and all held to the same standards.I also agree with getting rid of down pymt assistance programs.All this does is artificially inflate the homes value which has now come back to haunt us.</p>
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		<title>By: Vladislav Baydovskiy</title>
		<link>http://mortgagefiduciaries.com/2008/06/solutions-to-the-mortgage-lending-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-1287</link>
		<dc:creator>Vladislav Baydovskiy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 03:25:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like self regulation solution, but could not agree more on #5. Downpayment assistants is a joke.  Usually the seller bumps up the price, and this difference gives to the buyer.  I think one way we going to come up from this crisis, is to have consumers vest into the home as much as possible.  Someone will most likely hold on to piece of property if they have contributed 20% as down payment, even in a event if the property has declined in value.  If someone have nothing vested, he will just most likly walk away, and contribute even more to crisis we are facing right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like self regulation solution, but could not agree more on #5. Downpayment assistants is a joke.  Usually the seller bumps up the price, and this difference gives to the buyer.  I think one way we going to come up from this crisis, is to have consumers vest into the home as much as possible.  Someone will most likely hold on to piece of property if they have contributed 20% as down payment, even in a event if the property has declined in value.  If someone have nothing vested, he will just most likly walk away, and contribute even more to crisis we are facing right now.</p>
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		<title>By: Beth Damery</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beth Damery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:13:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Self Regulation is the way to go. 
Working for a company who checks my files to make sure they are in compliance is a big plus.  Educate your clients.  Encourage them to ask questions and answer them honestly. It is really not that difficult to do the right thing. I am grateful for the shake and and wake up in our industry so the consumer will ultimately win. I am happy to be a loan officer and I look forward to helping make this a respectable industry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Self Regulation is the way to go.<br />
Working for a company who checks my files to make sure they are in compliance is a big plus.  Educate your clients.  Encourage them to ask questions and answer them honestly. It is really not that difficult to do the right thing. I am grateful for the shake and and wake up in our industry so the consumer will ultimately win. I am happy to be a loan officer and I look forward to helping make this a respectable industry.</p>
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		<title>By: Laurie Morgan</title>
		<link>http://mortgagefiduciaries.com/2008/06/solutions-to-the-mortgage-lending-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-1263</link>
		<dc:creator>Laurie Morgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:00:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jillayne, your comments about RESPA and TIL  are right on the mark. APR is easy to understand once explained to a client, but on a regular basis it does bring up questions.  And the fact that it is easy to unintentionally make a mistake and miss one little item which will make the file out of compliance.  I&#039;m lucky I work for a mortgage bank that does a QA on all files to ensure this doesn&#039;t happen.

Self regulation drafted by people who work in and are experts in mortgage originations understand what is practical and what is not are the best to write the regulations.  

Again it goes back to putting the client first and not your paycheck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jillayne, your comments about RESPA and TIL  are right on the mark. APR is easy to understand once explained to a client, but on a regular basis it does bring up questions.  And the fact that it is easy to unintentionally make a mistake and miss one little item which will make the file out of compliance.  I&#8217;m lucky I work for a mortgage bank that does a QA on all files to ensure this doesn&#8217;t happen.</p>
<p>Self regulation drafted by people who work in and are experts in mortgage originations understand what is practical and what is not are the best to write the regulations.  </p>
<p>Again it goes back to putting the client first and not your paycheck!</p>
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		<title>By: Brad Allen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 21:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comments on Solution Number 1:  

Jillayne, I have to disagree with you here.  ALL retail mortgage salespeople do not owe fiduciary responsibilities to consumers.  In particular, sales people attached to a lender (or a broker acting as a lender) fundamentally cannot owe fiduciary responsibilities to consumers.  Purchase-sale transactions have, at least, two principals involved.  These kinds of transactions are called “arms length” transactions.  Each principal has its own interests that are generally in opposition to the other principal’s interests.  It is a mistake to consider that either party owes fiduciary responsibility to the other in an arms lenght transaction.  The lender-borrower transaction is an example of such an arms length transaction.  The lender (and any “loan officer” who works for the lender) is one principal and the borrower is the other.  Sales people who work for and on behalf of the lender do not owe and cannot be deemed to owe broad fiduciary responsibility to the borrower, i.e., the other principal to the transaction.  

On the other hand, mortgage brokers (and by extension their loan officers) represent a very different situation.  The mortgage broker is not a principal in the lender-borrower transaction.  Brokers come to the transaction as a result of a relationship with one of the principals to the transaction.  That is, they come to the transaction representing either the borrower or the lender.  Although the broker industry has maintained that they represent neither, such a position is preposterous.  A careful study of the nature of the relationship shows that the mortgage broker is more likely to be regarded as representing the interests of the borrower.  In order to remove any ambiguity, however, the state of Washington has now defined mortgage brokers to always be representing the interests of the borrower.  Under Washington law mortgage brokers owe a fiduciary responsibility to the borrower.  

In my view, your Solution Number 1 needs to be rewritten to say that mortgage brokers must recognize and embrace their fiduciary responsibility to the borrower and all that this implies.  As you say, the mortgage decision is no less important to families than a medical procedure or legal matter.  Borrowers ought to have access to practitioners who are bound by practice and by law to do what is in the best interests of the borrower. 
  
As a corollary to Solution Number 1, I would add that is important for borrower’s to come to understand the difference between mortgage brokers and lenders.  Step one is for the broker industry, in recognition of their fiduciary responsibility, to establish a difference.  Step two is for the borrower to actually understand that difference so he can make an intelligent decision in choosing how he will shop for a loan and how he will choose the kind of business he will work with.  

Comments on Solution number 2:  

We would not be discussing the behavior we call predatory lending if mortgage brokers had accepted and exercised fiduciary responsibility to borrowers for the past 10 years.  Very little of the “predatory lending” that went on was done by lenders directly.  The vast majority was originated by brokers and their loan officers.  How could this have happened if brokers had been acting in the best interests of their borrowers?  Your Solution Number 2 is just and extended consequence of the failure to implement Solution Number 1.  There may be a need to formulate and enforce stronger anti-predatory lending laws governing lenders, but since the vast majority of loans are originated by brokers, the establishment of a sense of fiduciary responsibility among broker will likely have a greater impact. 
 
Comments on Solution number 3:  

Effective self regulation that would protect borrowers by ensuring that industry players are acting on the best interests of the borrower is a great idea.  It goes hand in hand with the broker industry becoming a true profession.  However, there is, as near as I can see, virtually no interest among industry leaders in moving in that direction.  The broker industry continues to fight fiduciary responsibility, even in Washington where such responsibility is now a matter of law.  It is only the mortgage broker side of the business that will benefit from self regulation as this is the only side of the business in a position to embrace fiduciary responsibility.  But to date, rather than embrace the differentiating quality of fiduciary responsibility, brokers and their loan officers continue to call for the so called “level playing field”, that is, common regulatory rules for brokers and lenders.  This is not the path toward recognition of fiduciary responsibility out of which may come the capacity for beneficial self regulation.  If the industry cannot learn to serve the borrower’s interests as matter of standard professional behavior, one would have to question what direction any attempt at self regulation would take.  Serving the interests of the borrower IS the higher calling that any meaningful attempt at self regulation would need to focus on.  

Comments on Solution Number 4:

I would certainly not defend rating agencies.  However, it is for investors to do due diligence on their prospective investments.  MBS investors relied heavily on rating agencies without doing due diligence on those rating agencies themselves.  That said, rating agencies, in examining pools of mortgages, relied on the underwriting standards of the lenders that issued the loans.  In examining the underwriting there was a presumption of honesty.  After all, every 1003 says, in the fine print, that the borrower certifies all information to be complete and accurate under penalty of legal consequences if it is not.  And every loan officer of every broker has a duty not to accept and forward on an application that he knows to be a misrepresentation of the truth.  Passing the blame on to rating agencies is not entirely appropriate.  Given the widespread use of “liar’s loans” in which borrowers actually lied and given that too often loan officers either colluded in the application or worse, dictated the falsehood in the application, the presumption of honesty made by rating agencies was thoroughly undermined by the industry players in processing those loans.   If rating agencies are to be required to do better due diligence, where would you have them stop – should they re-underwrite every loan in a pool?  The whole system for providing liquidity relies on the rating agencies ability to draw risk conclusions from a review of underwriting standards, without a need to re-underwrite each loan.  Dishonesty wrecked the integrity of the underwriting process.    

Comment on Solution Number 5:

Absoutely!

Comments on Solution Number 6:

Here again, I point back to Solution Number 1.  If the mortgage broker industry stepped up to become the source of origination services dedicated to serving the interests of the borrower and IF the borrower were to be educated on the difference, there would be a strong voice of logic, reason, and client centric information in the market place.  In such a market place, why would anyone listen to the deceptive advertising by disreputable lenders?  The public would find safety in working with a broker.  And, of course, a broker industry dedicated to serving the borrower’s interests would not be involved in this kind of advertising.

New Solution – Number 7:

I would add one more solution.  This goes hand in hand with my “rewrite” of Solution Number 1.  It is imperative as a consequence of fiduciary responsibility and the included responsibility to eliminate so far as is practicable all conflicts of interest, that mortgage brokers end the practice of claiming YSP as a part of broker/LO compensation.  All YSP should be credited to the borrower.  Further, they should eliminate compensation related to anything other than the level of service provided.  This is in keeping with serving the borrower’s best interests.  That means, besides crediting YSP to borrower, brokers and their LO’s should set origination fees on the basis of the services provided, not on the basis of interest rate or loan amount or any other aspect of the loan that does not call for greater training, effort, or experience.  Only when the biases of the compensation element are effectively removed from the loan program and terms recommendation, will the incentive to do all that has created such a problem be largely removed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comments on Solution Number 1:  </p>
<p>Jillayne, I have to disagree with you here.  ALL retail mortgage salespeople do not owe fiduciary responsibilities to consumers.  In particular, sales people attached to a lender (or a broker acting as a lender) fundamentally cannot owe fiduciary responsibilities to consumers.  Purchase-sale transactions have, at least, two principals involved.  These kinds of transactions are called “arms length” transactions.  Each principal has its own interests that are generally in opposition to the other principal’s interests.  It is a mistake to consider that either party owes fiduciary responsibility to the other in an arms lenght transaction.  The lender-borrower transaction is an example of such an arms length transaction.  The lender (and any “loan officer” who works for the lender) is one principal and the borrower is the other.  Sales people who work for and on behalf of the lender do not owe and cannot be deemed to owe broad fiduciary responsibility to the borrower, i.e., the other principal to the transaction.  </p>
<p>On the other hand, mortgage brokers (and by extension their loan officers) represent a very different situation.  The mortgage broker is not a principal in the lender-borrower transaction.  Brokers come to the transaction as a result of a relationship with one of the principals to the transaction.  That is, they come to the transaction representing either the borrower or the lender.  Although the broker industry has maintained that they represent neither, such a position is preposterous.  A careful study of the nature of the relationship shows that the mortgage broker is more likely to be regarded as representing the interests of the borrower.  In order to remove any ambiguity, however, the state of Washington has now defined mortgage brokers to always be representing the interests of the borrower.  Under Washington law mortgage brokers owe a fiduciary responsibility to the borrower.  </p>
<p>In my view, your Solution Number 1 needs to be rewritten to say that mortgage brokers must recognize and embrace their fiduciary responsibility to the borrower and all that this implies.  As you say, the mortgage decision is no less important to families than a medical procedure or legal matter.  Borrowers ought to have access to practitioners who are bound by practice and by law to do what is in the best interests of the borrower. </p>
<p>As a corollary to Solution Number 1, I would add that is important for borrower’s to come to understand the difference between mortgage brokers and lenders.  Step one is for the broker industry, in recognition of their fiduciary responsibility, to establish a difference.  Step two is for the borrower to actually understand that difference so he can make an intelligent decision in choosing how he will shop for a loan and how he will choose the kind of business he will work with.  </p>
<p>Comments on Solution number 2:  </p>
<p>We would not be discussing the behavior we call predatory lending if mortgage brokers had accepted and exercised fiduciary responsibility to borrowers for the past 10 years.  Very little of the “predatory lending” that went on was done by lenders directly.  The vast majority was originated by brokers and their loan officers.  How could this have happened if brokers had been acting in the best interests of their borrowers?  Your Solution Number 2 is just and extended consequence of the failure to implement Solution Number 1.  There may be a need to formulate and enforce stronger anti-predatory lending laws governing lenders, but since the vast majority of loans are originated by brokers, the establishment of a sense of fiduciary responsibility among broker will likely have a greater impact. </p>
<p>Comments on Solution number 3:  </p>
<p>Effective self regulation that would protect borrowers by ensuring that industry players are acting on the best interests of the borrower is a great idea.  It goes hand in hand with the broker industry becoming a true profession.  However, there is, as near as I can see, virtually no interest among industry leaders in moving in that direction.  The broker industry continues to fight fiduciary responsibility, even in Washington where such responsibility is now a matter of law.  It is only the mortgage broker side of the business that will benefit from self regulation as this is the only side of the business in a position to embrace fiduciary responsibility.  But to date, rather than embrace the differentiating quality of fiduciary responsibility, brokers and their loan officers continue to call for the so called “level playing field”, that is, common regulatory rules for brokers and lenders.  This is not the path toward recognition of fiduciary responsibility out of which may come the capacity for beneficial self regulation.  If the industry cannot learn to serve the borrower’s interests as matter of standard professional behavior, one would have to question what direction any attempt at self regulation would take.  Serving the interests of the borrower IS the higher calling that any meaningful attempt at self regulation would need to focus on.  </p>
<p>Comments on Solution Number 4:</p>
<p>I would certainly not defend rating agencies.  However, it is for investors to do due diligence on their prospective investments.  MBS investors relied heavily on rating agencies without doing due diligence on those rating agencies themselves.  That said, rating agencies, in examining pools of mortgages, relied on the underwriting standards of the lenders that issued the loans.  In examining the underwriting there was a presumption of honesty.  After all, every 1003 says, in the fine print, that the borrower certifies all information to be complete and accurate under penalty of legal consequences if it is not.  And every loan officer of every broker has a duty not to accept and forward on an application that he knows to be a misrepresentation of the truth.  Passing the blame on to rating agencies is not entirely appropriate.  Given the widespread use of “liar’s loans” in which borrowers actually lied and given that too often loan officers either colluded in the application or worse, dictated the falsehood in the application, the presumption of honesty made by rating agencies was thoroughly undermined by the industry players in processing those loans.   If rating agencies are to be required to do better due diligence, where would you have them stop – should they re-underwrite every loan in a pool?  The whole system for providing liquidity relies on the rating agencies ability to draw risk conclusions from a review of underwriting standards, without a need to re-underwrite each loan.  Dishonesty wrecked the integrity of the underwriting process.    </p>
<p>Comment on Solution Number 5:</p>
<p>Absoutely!</p>
<p>Comments on Solution Number 6:</p>
<p>Here again, I point back to Solution Number 1.  If the mortgage broker industry stepped up to become the source of origination services dedicated to serving the interests of the borrower and IF the borrower were to be educated on the difference, there would be a strong voice of logic, reason, and client centric information in the market place.  In such a market place, why would anyone listen to the deceptive advertising by disreputable lenders?  The public would find safety in working with a broker.  And, of course, a broker industry dedicated to serving the borrower’s interests would not be involved in this kind of advertising.</p>
<p>New Solution – Number 7:</p>
<p>I would add one more solution.  This goes hand in hand with my “rewrite” of Solution Number 1.  It is imperative as a consequence of fiduciary responsibility and the included responsibility to eliminate so far as is practicable all conflicts of interest, that mortgage brokers end the practice of claiming YSP as a part of broker/LO compensation.  All YSP should be credited to the borrower.  Further, they should eliminate compensation related to anything other than the level of service provided.  This is in keeping with serving the borrower’s best interests.  That means, besides crediting YSP to borrower, brokers and their LO’s should set origination fees on the basis of the services provided, not on the basis of interest rate or loan amount or any other aspect of the loan that does not call for greater training, effort, or experience.  Only when the biases of the compensation element are effectively removed from the loan program and terms recommendation, will the incentive to do all that has created such a problem be largely removed.</p>
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		<title>By: Mila Usher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mila Usher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 18:21:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If more people would take these isues into consideration and just do the right thing, then maybe the industry could spring back quicker. I also think that for those of us working in the industry we could earn back the respect of the consumers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If more people would take these isues into consideration and just do the right thing, then maybe the industry could spring back quicker. I also think that for those of us working in the industry we could earn back the respect of the consumers.</p>
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		<title>By: Mila Usher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mila Usher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 17:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow!! It&#039;s about time someone bluntly calls out the isues like that. I can agree with everything you just said, and I wish others could as well. The quicker we deal with these issues the faster the industry could recover.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow!! It&#8217;s about time someone bluntly calls out the isues like that. I can agree with everything you just said, and I wish others could as well. The quicker we deal with these issues the faster the industry could recover.</p>
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		<title>By: Rand Wood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rand Wood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 03:34:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not agree with gov&#039;t intervention any more than necc. We as an industry thru our own actions have brought the gov&#039;t down on us however. Self policing is the ideal business model. Most of us as commissioned sales people consider ourselves entrepeneurs and pro- business.This spirit lends itself to a self regulation.We have the experience, talent and intelligence to do it. It will be a challenge to win our industry back!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not agree with gov&#8217;t intervention any more than necc. We as an industry thru our own actions have brought the gov&#8217;t down on us however. Self policing is the ideal business model. Most of us as commissioned sales people consider ourselves entrepeneurs and pro- business.This spirit lends itself to a self regulation.We have the experience, talent and intelligence to do it. It will be a challenge to win our industry back!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Vandenbos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Vandenbos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 04:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with the perspective that the current mortgage crisis will refine the industry professional. When I applied for my license last year the company that was providing finger-printing services said that upwards of 20% of Washington loan officers will not be elgible because they had a felony on their record...whoa!

I agree with the eight professional status criteria listed on this website because they will make all boats rise; the consumer, the loan officer, the investor and the economy will all benefit. 

Education should be the great equalizer, not salesmanship, especially in the mortgage industry. The mortgage transaction will be the largest financial event in most of our clients lifetime and it will have the most impact on thier net worth due to the laws of compound interest.  Absolutely, there should be fiduciary obligations that are either rewarded if served well, or penalized if their is fraudulent, predatory lending. 

Regarding solution #4, I agree that the secondary market needs to be more regulated.  My one suggestion would be to mandate investor recourse against the borrower to prevent borrowers walking away from their houses. There are countries in Europe that will garnish a borrowers wages and assets if they default on their loan. Patrick O&#039; Driscoll, with the Cato Institute wrote a great article on this in the WSJ on November 17, 2008.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the perspective that the current mortgage crisis will refine the industry professional. When I applied for my license last year the company that was providing finger-printing services said that upwards of 20% of Washington loan officers will not be elgible because they had a felony on their record&#8230;whoa!</p>
<p>I agree with the eight professional status criteria listed on this website because they will make all boats rise; the consumer, the loan officer, the investor and the economy will all benefit. </p>
<p>Education should be the great equalizer, not salesmanship, especially in the mortgage industry. The mortgage transaction will be the largest financial event in most of our clients lifetime and it will have the most impact on thier net worth due to the laws of compound interest.  Absolutely, there should be fiduciary obligations that are either rewarded if served well, or penalized if their is fraudulent, predatory lending. </p>
<p>Regarding solution #4, I agree that the secondary market needs to be more regulated.  My one suggestion would be to mandate investor recourse against the borrower to prevent borrowers walking away from their houses. There are countries in Europe that will garnish a borrowers wages and assets if they default on their loan. Patrick O&#8217; Driscoll, with the Cato Institute wrote a great article on this in the WSJ on November 17, 2008.</p>
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		<title>By: Kent Kiser</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kent Kiser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 20:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seeing that the regulations have been tightened up the industry as a whole should benefit. Weeding out those with the wrong intentions will create a better working environmment for those consumers who just want to believe in a fair and equitable service.
Self regulation is the key here to providing the most cost effective tool for the consumer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seeing that the regulations have been tightened up the industry as a whole should benefit. Weeding out those with the wrong intentions will create a better working environmment for those consumers who just want to believe in a fair and equitable service.<br />
Self regulation is the key here to providing the most cost effective tool for the consumer.</p>
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		<title>By: Cheryl J Barr, 510-LO-38949</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cheryl J Barr, 510-LO-38949</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 18:16:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you have been a mortgage professional for many years the only way to look at what has happened to our industry is an opportunity to weed out those who were in it to make a quick buck and try to raise the level of consumer trust and confidence. Consumers do see the industry as whole threw a single lens. I am gratefully for the licensing requirements and required education credits. It helps to establish a better code of ethics leading the way to self regulation.  I believe self regulation is the best way to obtain concusmer respect while maintaining a reasonable fee structure; value and service  never go out of style.  If regulation is needed anywhere it is in advertizing. I listen to the radio ads and I am thankful I don&#039;t own a gun! I for one would like to know the APR&#039;s on some of the rates that are quoted.(i will get of my soap box..ug) If our industry would step up to our fiduciary responsibilities we would creat a better work place and provide excellant service to our clients.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you have been a mortgage professional for many years the only way to look at what has happened to our industry is an opportunity to weed out those who were in it to make a quick buck and try to raise the level of consumer trust and confidence. Consumers do see the industry as whole threw a single lens. I am gratefully for the licensing requirements and required education credits. It helps to establish a better code of ethics leading the way to self regulation.  I believe self regulation is the best way to obtain concusmer respect while maintaining a reasonable fee structure; value and service  never go out of style.  If regulation is needed anywhere it is in advertizing. I listen to the radio ads and I am thankful I don&#8217;t own a gun! I for one would like to know the APR&#8217;s on some of the rates that are quoted.(i will get of my soap box..ug) If our industry would step up to our fiduciary responsibilities we would creat a better work place and provide excellant service to our clients.</p>
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		<title>By: Bartholomew Henning</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bartholomew Henning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 23:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obviously, solution #3 is the best, and that is why you expanded on it so much.  Self-regulation is huge.  It costs less, it keeps the governement out of the picture, and it brings the industry together.  I think you should be friends with your competitors, hey, you might learn something that way!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obviously, solution #3 is the best, and that is why you expanded on it so much.  Self-regulation is huge.  It costs less, it keeps the governement out of the picture, and it brings the industry together.  I think you should be friends with your competitors, hey, you might learn something that way!</p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin Bergsma</title>
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		<dc:creator>Benjamin Bergsma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 22:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The crisis will ends some day soon ( I hope) and when it does, there will be more regularion, both governmental and throught the mortgage industry. It is similar to the real estate business. When thigs were good, people would quit working for Boeing the become a realtos. When things got tough, they went back to work with Boeing and the state required tougher licensing requirements and more education. It will be the same in the mortagage industry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The crisis will ends some day soon ( I hope) and when it does, there will be more regularion, both governmental and throught the mortgage industry. It is similar to the real estate business. When thigs were good, people would quit working for Boeing the become a realtos. When things got tough, they went back to work with Boeing and the state required tougher licensing requirements and more education. It will be the same in the mortagage industry.</p>
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