Comments on: New National LO Exam Pass Rate 69%

By: Jillayne Schlicke

Jillayne Schlicke — Mon, 05 Mar 2012 23:32:09 +0000

Hi Melissa,

I wrote an extensive article on this topic here:

http://mortgagefiduciaries.com/2010/12/why-some-los-are-not-passing-the-national-lo-exam/

See number 2 for links on where to go to get additional study material.

Jillayne

By: Melissa

Melissa — Sun, 04 Mar 2012 02:54:53 +0000

I just got home from taking the National Nmls test a sexond time. The first time I made a 74
today I made a 74. Yes 1 point from passing. I was told in my 20 hour class by a student not to go to Lakeforrest, ca to fake the test because most failed to go anywhere else outside of Orange County. I didnt take her advice. On my first test I had 12 to 15 questions on how long you would go to jail for. ertain offences that we NEVER studied. This time very squirley mixed up versions of what was most likely or possible or something. Very vague. I asked the test administrator what was up since I was one away again. We discussed the 10 or so points that they wont divulge and also wont devulge which ones are right or wrong. I asked if any other tests they administer were like this and two of them said no. She said one woman has made a 74 four times. That it was common. She also said that its much harder than last year in 2011. Every year its harder. She suggested it was strange and to complain to fhe NMLS. I said right!!!!! She said its the only test they dont get to know whats counted and the answers to. Weird… It doesnt seem fair. I was the outstanding graduate in my class at The University of Houston, An accepted student at Oxford in England and a Deans list regular… Also nominated for Whos Who in Colleges and Universities. I made 100% on my real esfate exam and they called me be ause I was the only one to do so that the state of CA could remember. The test is BS and they are keeping good people from passing. Someone should at least investigate this. I will try again and and will reapect the system but question it!!!!! Any suggestions as to tests online to study other than a prep I took twice in. Anaheim , ca and the 20 hrs please let me know. Is there a better crash. course in so california???? Thanks and good luck!!!!

By: Maria

Maria — Fri, 02 Mar 2012 19:22:58 +0000

My CA & Nat test is next Thursday! I’m not sure if I’m ready to take the test. I just started studying this past week. I’m scoring over 90%, I just feel like I need extra study material. I have my RE license and I fell like this test is much harder. Any one hv any advice? I have to pass this test the first time. It’s urgent due to my job situation! I would appreciate the advice. Thank you!

By: Crystal

Crystal — Fri, 02 Mar 2012 13:28:40 +0000

WOW – I don’t feel so bad after all. Nancy – I agree with you completely. I worked for a Mortgage Company as a processor for two years 2006-2008. I have a college degree, I was on the deans list in college, and test very well. I’ve been out of college for a year. I was offered a job back at the mortgage company- I have been working as a Sales Assistant – working to become licensed as an LO. I passed the State Component with an 84 – I studied my Senior LO’s paperwork. As for the National – I took the 20hr pre education class, I have studied day in and day out. I have taken test on all websites, I have purchased extra material online, I have purchased tests online, I have been working with an LO to get the feel of things. AND I HAVE FAILED THE NATIONAL TEST TWICE!! I hate feeling so down, I am going to do what ever it takes – but -WOW. 74 on the first one and 71 on the second test. The questions I thought I had it……I answered 90% with confidence that I had the right answer…..only to find out I didn’t. This blog is great and I intent to look at all the information and pages given…..but I hate feeling like there is nothing more I can study…..any advice you may have I would greatly appreciate! Thank you.

By: mf

mf — Tue, 24 Jan 2012 05:37:20 +0000

You bet. If you have trouble finding the state and federal study guides, I think I linked to them in that “who is/is not passing the exam” blog post.

By: George

George — Tue, 24 Jan 2012 05:36:16 +0000

Great blog!!!! Thank you once again. I really appreciate it.

By: mf

mf — Tue, 24 Jan 2012 05:20:46 +0000

Okay. I wrote a long blog post about why people are/are not passing the exam.

Getting a high score on a course provider’s practice exams is meaningless. There is no course provider that can give you practice exams that match exactly what’s going to be on the test.

if it were that simple, why bother with all this? Let’s just give everyone a license. The exam requires more studying.

See numbers 4 and 10 from this list:
http://mortgagefiduciaries.com/2010/12/why-some-los-are-not-passing-the-national-lo-exam/

By: George

George — Tue, 24 Jan 2012 04:52:47 +0000

I did complete my 20 hours and I was given several practice test. I scored above 90 on all of them. The material given to me had the breakdown of the test. I was totally confident before taking the test. However that changed when there were questions on material that was not listed in my books. Came out totally discouraged. I will check the nmls site. I appreciate your feedback and quick response.

By: mf

mf — Tue, 24 Jan 2012 04:46:42 +0000

The NMLS publishes a state and federal exam study guide for LOs. Find the California study guide. In there, it will tell you exactly which California laws to read in order to pass the California exam.

Have you taken your 20 Hr SAFE LO Prelicensing class yet? Typically your course provider will be able to give you lots of sample test questions at both the state and federal level as part of your course.

By: George

George — Tue, 24 Jan 2012 04:14:29 +0000

California. I took the exam today. Meant to say I have no prior knowledge. I’m new to this.

By: mf

mf — Tue, 24 Jan 2012 02:32:49 +0000

George, which state?

By: George

George — Tue, 24 Jan 2012 02:24:35 +0000

Just took the state portion of the exam and failed. I scored a 70%. I have prior knowledge. I studied all the information given to me and I studied for a week. I knew all the stats and terms including laws. However, the test may have covered about 20 percent of what I studied. There were terms and information that was not included in my books. Does anyone know a realiable source. I am planning to take National in a couple of weeks.

By: mf

mf — Wed, 21 Sep 2011 22:37:11 +0000

Congratulations, Steve! You’re making my point exactly. It’s all about the time spent studying. English language learners know this and accept it and STUDY….and then they will pass.

By: Steve

Steve — Wed, 21 Sep 2011 22:30:30 +0000

I read all the comments on this site which I appreciate. I myself is a college graduate with a 3.0 GPA years ago (by the way, English is not my native language) with average intelligence. I am new to the industry. I spent four full days reading the 300-page reading material from the tow-day live cram course, and spent three more days on the online test drills. I passed the NMLS exam on my first try with 81%. Here is how I did it. The instructor said that in order to pass the exam, all online cram tests need to be scored at 90% or above. I did about (at the minimum) 1,500 questions and scored between 90% to 100% on all the tests. Hope it helps.

By: Jillayne Schlicke

Jillayne Schlicke — Fri, 29 Jul 2011 01:08:06 +0000

Hi Chris,

Continuing to blame others for the meltdown is pretty naive at this point.

There WAS problems within the loan originator community. Somebody was sitting across the table from the consumer selling them a worse-off loan than they could have received.

The banks will always come out with products designed to make the banks more money. They will do this again and again.

The SAFE ACT was needed. Licensing creates a minimum barrier to entry. Heck you don’t even need a H.S. diploma to become an LO….helping people with the largest financial decision of their life. That in itself is a crime. So the test “is” the h.s. diploma “test.”

If a person can’t pass the test after taking the test over and over again, maybe it’s time to think about another job.

By: Chris, Mortgage Broker

Chris, Mortgage Broker — Wed, 27 Jul 2011 23:42:09 +0000

If you have read the safe act of 2008. you see that this test is nothing more then covering their backs on the predatory loan industry, fannie and freddie.

let’s wake up.. it’s not us that caused this melt down. we are just the bottom of the food change.

if we let them get away with this safe act. don’t be suprised if you have your drivers license is next..

By: Jillayne Schlicke

Jillayne Schlicke — Wed, 20 Jul 2011 20:26:55 +0000

Chris, there will be no repeal in Florida because….the SAFE Act is a national law, not a state law.

There’s nothing unconstitutional about the SAFE Act.

The test sets a bar. The test is a barrier to entry. If a person cannot pass the LO exam, there are many other things that person can do instead of just blaming the government. I wrote a blog post about this…let me go find it for you. Here you go

http://mortgagefiduciaries.com/2010/12/why-some-los-are-not-passing-the-national-lo-exam/

By: Chris, Mortgage Broker

Chris, Mortgage Broker — Wed, 20 Jul 2011 18:23:55 +0000

I am trying to repeal this NMLS SAFE NATIONAL TEST in Florida.
It will not stop preditory lending. I feel it may be un-constutitional. Also if they can take a license away with no revocations, then we will be subjected to all other lic to be taken from us. Lets Stop NMLS National Test we must all work together calling your legislatures. It may be against BILL OF RIGHTS. Call Washington and stop blaming Mortgage Brokers that have their license in Good Standings.RENEWAL OF ALL GOOD STANDING LICENSE.
Go after Predatory Lenders Not US!!!

By: mf

mf — Thu, 10 Feb 2011 05:01:29 +0000

Hi Jagan,

The national LO exam by far is tougher than the state exam.

By: Jagan Santhanam

Jagan Santhanam — Thu, 10 Feb 2011 04:44:31 +0000

This question is for any one who passed both Nationals & State. Which of the 2 was tougher?

By: bsmith

bsmith — Tue, 08 Feb 2011 02:02:15 +0000

I do have some advice here; look at your scoring results from the test and see where it was the lowest; each part of the test is broken down into sections such as ethics, loan originator activities, etc. If it’s the same low percentage in the same section each time then that’s where you are the weakest and should concentrate extra study time. This would be your first step. If it’s low in one section on one test and then low in another section on a subsequent test then you need to rethink your study habits. I would suggest to take your time and take a class study where others are present and can bring up questions that can be answered and then perhaps the material will be better comprehended. Don’t be in a rush; go slow and make sure you understand all of the material. I think after 4 times you will need to wait 6 months for a retake. Good luck.

By: Lola

Lola — Mon, 07 Feb 2011 16:22:27 +0000

Hello Everyone,

I am so frustrated! I can not seem to pass the National Exam. I have failed 3 times, first time I scored a 73%, second time, 70% and last week, a 73% once again. I feel like I am missing something. I have studied and studied. This next test will be my 4th try and can someone please help me pass this test?? I have score in the 90% range when I take all the exam prep tests. I do not know what I’m doing wrong? I will aprreciate any advice! Thank you in advance! )

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By: Bradley

Bradley — Mon, 03 Jan 2011 08:09:48 +0000

I too was thrilled to see this board talking about this pathetic National component Mortgage test. It is rigged and its all about getting the right test. I have taken it Three times. First I got a 69% second was a 73% and finally I scored an 80% and passed the dam thing. I too am college educated , prep schools and consider myself as smarter than the average bear but my goodness is this test rigged. I wanted to see which questions I got wrong but that is the mystery. Why is it so secretive. I want to see answers and yes I think we as Mortage Bankers and Brokers should sue this pathetic testing system. It is incredibly unfair. I am telling you those first two tests were full of questions that were very difficult and I found myself just quessing through them. Curiously, the first two times I took it, I was given a #2 pencil & paper and a calculator. This last time I was given Two marker pens that you write on this plastic board and a fat chalkboard erasers. What was the reason that I could not use a pencil? Who the hell knows…

WE have all been through the ringer this past year with all these ridiclous changes. I think it was a joke that we had to submit to this national background check , fingerprinted like a criminal and told that we are criminals in so many potential questions within this test.

Major problem with the test is the language. The English is horrible and the questions are ambigous. Yes there were Two correct answers to questions and its tricky and the test wants you to fail. bottomline. They, the Banking system in America, want us gone from the planet so that they can control it all. We are constantly being maligned in the media and I am so fucking sick of it!

Hint: Spend less time studing the math as there is very little to figure out, just simple calculations really. Good luck to everyone! .. and Happy New Year!

besides the compucram by Hondros, pick up their Mortgage Loan Originator Review Crammer book. Its a 168 page soft shell book that worked for me .. finally!

By: bsmith

bsmith — Sun, 02 Jan 2011 21:36:52 +0000

If it’s any consolation, I have been in the business 15+ years originating and management. I studied both the Fed and State material bought from different schools. I studied day and night for at least a month before taking both tests within a week of each other. I scored a 78 on the Fed and an 88 on the State. Don’t listen to people who passed say the tests are so easy and they didn’t need to study. The tests are very ambiguous and many of the questions seem as though there could be more than one correct answer. Then again, there are questions that seem to be freebies in that they are easy to answer. With that said, I would say read all the material and then study not only what has been read but also as many questions and answers from as many sources as possible. That’s what I did and I believe it helped me. Good luck.