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		<title>By: Belsy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Belsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2012 18:20:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, thanks for the information. Do you have any other suggestions? I fall in the newbie and ESL category; I have taken the test twice and fell test at 61% and second at 67%; However, I studied each time, made flash cards, used quizzlet and anything I can get my hands on. My problem is that I only got to originate 2 sub prime loans earlier in 2008 and now I work  for a governmental branch in other field; Thus, I would love to keep my license as I love to gain a part time in the mortgage field. I submitted my CE FOR 2011 all I have to do is past this test by end of FEB and  pay fees to be able to reinstate My Texas license. I am lacking experience in FHA, VA, and knowledge of all ins and outs of ARM and originating in general
Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, thanks for the information. Do you have any other suggestions? I fall in the newbie and ESL category; I have taken the test twice and fell test at 61% and second at 67%; However, I studied each time, made flash cards, used quizzlet and anything I can get my hands on. My problem is that I only got to originate 2 sub prime loans earlier in 2008 and now I work  for a governmental branch in other field; Thus, I would love to keep my license as I love to gain a part time in the mortgage field. I submitted my CE FOR 2011 all I have to do is past this test by end of FEB and  pay fees to be able to reinstate My Texas license. I am lacking experience in FHA, VA, and knowledge of all ins and outs of ARM and originating in general<br />
Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Dodd-Frank Wall St Reform Act Will Limit Loan Originator Compensation : National Association of Mortgage Fiduciaries</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dodd-Frank Wall St Reform Act Will Limit Loan Originator Compensation : National Association of Mortgage Fiduciaries</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Apr 2011 05:44:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] have to hold a high school diploma to become a loan originator.  In fact I have personally now met 5 people who have only finished 8th grade that are originating mortgage loans.  Even a 20 hour education requirement and a national exam will [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] have to hold a high school diploma to become a loan originator.  In fact I have personally now met 5 people who have only finished 8th grade that are originating mortgage loans.  Even a 20 hour education requirement and a national exam will [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jillayne Schlicke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jillayne Schlicke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2011 01:33:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi EMB,  Sorry, but I disagree. The industry needed to raise the bar and licensing and testing is a good place to start.  Yes, the banks want to make more money. 

There&#039;s nothing stopping you from opening up your own bank. Go for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi EMB,  Sorry, but I disagree. The industry needed to raise the bar and licensing and testing is a good place to start.  Yes, the banks want to make more money. </p>
<p>There&#8217;s nothing stopping you from opening up your own bank. Go for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Ex Mortgage Broker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ex Mortgage Broker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2011 01:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only we have to say that the NMLS is a rip off nothing to do with the real life all this mess is because banks want to make more money.

Money sucks, government sucks more than banks,  all of them are a rip off</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only we have to say that the NMLS is a rip off nothing to do with the real life all this mess is because banks want to make more money.</p>
<p>Money sucks, government sucks more than banks,  all of them are a rip off</p>
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		<title>By: how to become debt free</title>
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		<dc:creator>how to become debt free</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2011 23:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]    Who is and Who is Not Passing the New Loan Originator Exam  : National Association of Mortgage Fiduciaries [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Why Some LOs are Not Passing the National LO Exam : National Association of Mortgage Fiduciaries</title>
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		<dc:creator>Why Some LOs are Not Passing the National LO Exam : National Association of Mortgage Fiduciaries</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Dec 2010 06:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: 13 Reasons Why 30% of LOs Fail the National Loan Originator Exam &#124; Rain City Guide</title>
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		<dc:creator>13 Reasons Why 30% of LOs Fail the National Loan Originator Exam &#124; Rain City Guide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Dec 2010 06:11:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jillayne Schlicke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jillayne Schlicke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Nov 2010 04:47:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Deanna,

Thanks for stopping by and sharing your story.  20 hours which is basically three, 7 hour days, or sometimes a course provider will offer the class in two, 10 hour days, is definitely not nearly enough time to learn everything you need to know to pass the test nor is it enough time to learn everything needed to know to start originating without any mentoring.

I believe the state of Utah requires a one week course.  Ideally, training and education would be two weeks.  One week to learn the basics and the second week to put what was learned into practice using case studies, mock loan applications, qualifying the borrower, learning about many different types of loan programs, working on practice exams, and so forth.  

Since origination unfortunately still attracts sales-type personalities, typically those folks only will pay for and attend bare minimum when it comes to education.  

As it is, nationwide we are now requiring the 20 hour course.  

Before 2010....depending on the state and where an LO worked, no experience was required.

Since course providers only have 20 hours to &quot;get everything done&quot; and since LOs are ONLY FOCUSED on passing the exam, the 20 hours has really morphed into a big exam prep class.

...and that&#039;s unfortunate.

slowly, over time things will change.

when more time is devoted to really understanding the material, people will do better on their exam.

Now people are only focused on memorization-to-pass-the-test. That&#039;s not the best way to study bc very little will be retained long term.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Deanna,</p>
<p>Thanks for stopping by and sharing your story.  20 hours which is basically three, 7 hour days, or sometimes a course provider will offer the class in two, 10 hour days, is definitely not nearly enough time to learn everything you need to know to pass the test nor is it enough time to learn everything needed to know to start originating without any mentoring.</p>
<p>I believe the state of Utah requires a one week course.  Ideally, training and education would be two weeks.  One week to learn the basics and the second week to put what was learned into practice using case studies, mock loan applications, qualifying the borrower, learning about many different types of loan programs, working on practice exams, and so forth.  </p>
<p>Since origination unfortunately still attracts sales-type personalities, typically those folks only will pay for and attend bare minimum when it comes to education.  </p>
<p>As it is, nationwide we are now requiring the 20 hour course.  </p>
<p>Before 2010&#8230;.depending on the state and where an LO worked, no experience was required.</p>
<p>Since course providers only have 20 hours to &#8220;get everything done&#8221; and since LOs are ONLY FOCUSED on passing the exam, the 20 hours has really morphed into a big exam prep class.</p>
<p>&#8230;and that&#8217;s unfortunate.</p>
<p>slowly, over time things will change.</p>
<p>when more time is devoted to really understanding the material, people will do better on their exam.</p>
<p>Now people are only focused on memorization-to-pass-the-test. That&#8217;s not the best way to study bc very little will be retained long term.</p>
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		<title>By: Deanna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Nov 2010 21:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting and validating...let me explain. I have no mortgage banking experience what so ever. I am one of those &quot;baby LO&#039;s&quot; you referred to. I&#039;m towards the end of taking the 20 hr. SAFE and my head is spinning. The terms, the laws, the memorization...it&#039;s not been an enjoyable experience. Interesting, but not enjoyable. I know I will not be ready to take the state or national exam, which is why I won&#039;t. I have a BA in Psychology and luckily do very well on mulitiple choice exams, but the anxiety of taking an exam after being out of school for 25 years is overwhelming. I have a mentor broker who is helping and supporting me along. That is a plus. I have asked numerous times, however, why the heck I&#039;m doing this? I guess I&#039;m a glutton for punishment!! Seriously, thanks for writing your article. It was very validating. I don&#039;t feel like such a dummy, now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting and validating&#8230;let me explain. I have no mortgage banking experience what so ever. I am one of those &#8220;baby LO&#8217;s&#8221; you referred to. I&#8217;m towards the end of taking the 20 hr. SAFE and my head is spinning. The terms, the laws, the memorization&#8230;it&#8217;s not been an enjoyable experience. Interesting, but not enjoyable. I know I will not be ready to take the state or national exam, which is why I won&#8217;t. I have a BA in Psychology and luckily do very well on mulitiple choice exams, but the anxiety of taking an exam after being out of school for 25 years is overwhelming. I have a mentor broker who is helping and supporting me along. That is a plus. I have asked numerous times, however, why the heck I&#8217;m doing this? I guess I&#8217;m a glutton for punishment!! Seriously, thanks for writing your article. It was very validating. I don&#8217;t feel like such a dummy, now.</p>
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		<title>By: Jillayne Schlicke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jillayne Schlicke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Sep 2010 03:27:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Linda,

How did your score sheet break down where you scored strong and where you scored weak? That will give you an indication of where you need to be studying.

CSBS and ARMR are the two groups that are in charge of overseeing the Nationwide Mortgage Licensing System.  Here is more info on that:

http://mortgage.nationwidelicensingsystem.org/about/Pages/default.aspx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Linda,</p>
<p>How did your score sheet break down where you scored strong and where you scored weak? That will give you an indication of where you need to be studying.</p>
<p>CSBS and ARMR are the two groups that are in charge of overseeing the Nationwide Mortgage Licensing System.  Here is more info on that:</p>
<p><a href="http://mortgage.nationwidelicensingsystem.org/about/Pages/default.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://mortgage.nationwidelicensingsystem.org/about/Pages/default.aspx</a></p>
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		<title>By: Linda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Linda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 23:47:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I took the national LO exam today and I did not pass. My score was a 72%-Graded from 90 questions. It really disappointed me considering I studied a lot and had to put aside my personal time with my family. It makes me wonder if I would of passed if the 10 questions that were taken out of the 100 questions were correct answers.  I really felt that I was ready for the test, but the questions on the test were really hard. I have been working in the mortgage industry for almost 13 yrs. I had quite a few questions about the Conference of State Bank Supervisors/American Association of Residential Mortgage Regulators, which was not in my study guide through Financial Strategies.  I hope I pass the next test, I will try again in 30 days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I took the national LO exam today and I did not pass. My score was a 72%-Graded from 90 questions. It really disappointed me considering I studied a lot and had to put aside my personal time with my family. It makes me wonder if I would of passed if the 10 questions that were taken out of the 100 questions were correct answers.  I really felt that I was ready for the test, but the questions on the test were really hard. I have been working in the mortgage industry for almost 13 yrs. I had quite a few questions about the Conference of State Bank Supervisors/American Association of Residential Mortgage Regulators, which was not in my study guide through Financial Strategies.  I hope I pass the next test, I will try again in 30 days.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 May 2010 03:06:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good Observations!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good Observations!</p>
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		<title>By: Jillayne Schlicke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jillayne Schlicke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2010 20:46:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Michelle.
You&#039;re going to pass.
Don&#039;t delay: take the test now while everything is still fresh in your mind!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Michelle.<br />
You&#8217;re going to pass.<br />
Don&#8217;t delay: take the test now while everything is still fresh in your mind!</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle Swanson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle Swanson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2010 03:16:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting read, Jillayne.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting read, Jillayne.</p>
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